Lady Saiyuki Copying Dolls?

I wish I were kidding. Lady Saiyuki’s latest forum post:

I’d like to thank ErzaScarlet for her kind comment…but I removed it after talking to the attorney. as he said it is not something that should be posted on the internet. he asked me a strange question (he asked “would you go up to a rape victim and ask her if she’d like to post a video of her traumatizing experience on the internet to show the world what happened”….my answer of course was no) he said my situation was considered one of similar distress on a person’s life, he asked me if I wanted to relieve that moment over and over again, and I responded again, no. he also asked me if I wanted my daughter to relieve that moment over and over in the future….and I again answered no.
he said evidence like that is really only something that should be shown to the police and in a court of law to protect the innocent from having to relieve a terrible moment over and over again via the internet.
he also pointed out that anything and everything I’ve ever said on my site or out in public has been plastered all over the net and criticized, what would make posting a video of the incident any different, accept that the hate community would have more to make fun of and criticize….

I was also recommended to keep my public posting of this incident to a minimum so to no longer give the hate community fuel for their nasty and despicable banter.

he also recommended that I make my forum private to the public and only posting members could view all of the site (make intro, news and gallery available to members who have not posted…and the rest of the members can view the entire forum after they’ve made a certain amount of posts…)
and I agree with the suggestions that were made to me…I will be making my forums private and removing the moderation that was placed on this forum, so to free it’s members to post like they did before, but in a private forum, versus a Public forum where anything and everything they’ve said has been criticized for their supporting me and my dolls (I have removed many comments on this forum due to people being criticized or attacked by the hate community)

And as ever, a screencap.

Rather than posting on her blog that Amaira Rose didn’t try to hurt her, Lady Saiyuki posted an extended screed about how Amaira definitely tried to kill her baby (shocking, at this point, absolutely no one, I’m sure).

From the ladysaiyuki.com frontpage:

Hi again Everyone here on LS,

Finally Back on the Net after a Great MetroCon 2010. I had a Blast Guest Judging Anime Idol, they’re was a lot of great talent on stage this year, I wanna thank all the entrants as well as the attendees who watched, everyone was a winner that night! and all the Panels were a lot of fun too. I promise to get those packets out to all that requested them from the Saturday panel, sorry for the delay, I’ve been out of town for a little while after the convention. I’ll be able to start sending out the packets via email as early as tomorrow.

I’d also like to let everyone know that I’ll be opening a small preorder within the next week for anyone who wants jump in on it, it’ll have all of my current LS dolls available on it. I also wanted to let everyone know that this will be the last time SD Mature Ted will be available, as after this small preorder, the Head will be discontinued. as will Chibi Ted as well. I will also allow LS chibi body orders too.

I will also within the next few weeks be putting up the few in stock dolls up on the site as well.

I’d also liked to introduce one of my LS Prototypes (I will release her name after she is casted ^_^ ) as many attendees from MetroCon requested I do. I’ll post a few other pictures when I feel up to it.

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She is indeed sporting the new “rude” hand and Yes My Prototype was on display as well as went to a few panels with me at Metro and available for not only handling by convention attendees, but also available for real life comparison to any who came to the convention. I took off her clothes many times to show off her jointing as well as to allow over 20 different people to physically compare to any doll they wish to with their own eyes. and I’m very happy to report that all doll comparisons that were brought up to my prototype were proven in my favor in front of over 1000convention attendees to be nothing alike any of the dolls that it was accused of being alike (ie. different shapes or different sizes all together or a mix of both)….we also were even given a couple AE dolls, pear included (by other attendees, who found out after seeing the live physical comparison and seeing that I was wrongfully accused) to sell at our table and to have them for all the convention to see. (the old owners of the AE dolls were appalled by the differences and angered that no physical proof went with the false allegations, and they no longer wanted anything to do with a company that would accuse with no physical evidence to back their false claims)

I not only got over 20 apologies from people who had admitted to wrongfully bad mouthing me either online or at doll meets….as they went with what was being said by the oh so trustworthy low lives of doll hate community, but I also decided this is how all future sculpts will be handled from now on… I will proudly parade the prototypes, before they are put online around at Conventions I attend, having it available for any and all to see in person and will welcome any one who wishes to compare ANY of the parts to any other doll they’d like, and I will shoot down any future harassment/false claims made against my dolls with at least 1000+ witnesses to the physical proof that will be on display for the public.

And funny enough I have been contacted by 3 very well know and established doll companies who have offered to buy my future sculpts and put them under their label, making me one of their anonymous sculptors of their respected companies, as they feel what Armeleia/Aimee (Den of angels’s newest owner) did was out of personal hatred and jealousy for me and my talent. as these companies feel that my sculpts are better than many out their and deserve to be shared with the community freely. and to keep power hungry psychos like Armeliea/Aimee (who only get what they want in life by trying to pathetically bullying or tear down other people) from keeping my dolls from the community. I may and may not take them up on their nice and sweet offers, I may reveal which dolls are mine several years down the road if I should so take this route (as the thought of the hate community and Armeliea racking their brains to figure out which ones are my personal sculpts makes me laugh so hard… as I know Armeliea will be so mad at herself if she accidentally lets one of my sculpts on to her newly acquired DoA and funnier yet…she may even purchase one without knowing it’s mine….totally laughable)….but personally I like taking nasty low lives like her and the Hate community head on, as it only makes me stronger.

Thanks to all my friends, family and supporters out there! you help make me stronger!

~LS

You can see a screencap of this post here.

She also made three posts on her forum, which are quite lengthy and so will be posted after the cut.

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Copied from a post on Den of Demons:

Metrocon was this past weekend, and both LS and Amaira were there. Amaira had no idea any of this was happening at all, so she went to talk to Lady Sayuki about it after we told her about it. In the end, all she had to do was look her in the eye, say she didn’t try to kill her baby or whatever, and Lady Sayuki said she’d post on her blog and take back what she’d said. I’m waiting to see if/when this happens.

There was some truth to Lady Sayuki’s story though- Amaira Rose did run into her last year. Amaira’s a very touchy/huggy person. She hugs as a greeting and tends to put a hand on your arm when she’s talking. She went to hug Lady Sayuki, who she was basically friends with, when someone ran into her. She, in turn, bumped into LS. There was apparently a delay, then an ‘ouch’ or whatever, Lady Sayuki’s boyfriend/husband or whatever was freaking out, but nothing else happened. Amaira hung around the booth for a while, and all was fine.

So yeah, TL;DR Amaira didn’t try to kill her baby, but she did bump into her.

Nice throwing your friend under the bus, there, I guess?

Since she’s going to retract the story on her blog, do you suppose she’s also going to apologize for claiming Den of Demons conspired to hurt her baby? I mean, I’ve asked (even on her forum — posting is moderated and she or whoever is doing the moderating didn’t let my post through) for links to or screencaps of the offending posts, and no one’s provided me with a thing, and now she’s admitting that no one even tried to hurt her baby.

Heck, I’d settle for her admitting that it wasn’t true, sans apology, but I doubt I’m going to get that either. I guess theoretically I could contact a lawyer about her libeling the forum as a whole, since she’s basically falsely accusing us of plotting attempted murder and she knows it, but fortunately for her I feel like that’s a waste of my time.

Den of Angels admin Armeleia has made an official statement about the email Lady Saiyuki posted from “her”. She’s also made a statement on her blog stating that the email is a complete fabrication. Important bits: 1. Armeleia has had no contact with Lady Saiyuki since 2007. 2. That’s not her email address. 3. The email sounds nothing like her anyway. 4. She has not had any communication from Lady Saiyuki’s supporters asking that she be unbanned. 5. “This is libel and I will be seeking counsel.”

Full text of the DoA post after the jump, for anyone who can’t access it for any reason:

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Lady Saiyuki has made several very lengthy posts about this ongoing scandal in her forum. I’ve made a screencap of them for posterity, in case they disappear later (be warned, it is a very large PNG).

Contents of the post include the full text of the email allegedly sent to her by Armeleia, comparison photos with an Asleep Eidolon Pear head, and allegations that members of Den of Demons dared each other to hurt Lady Saiyuki at conventions to make her miscarry her baby while she was pregnant.

About this last: As a long-time member and a current administrator of Den of Demons, I  can say that to my knowledge this never happened. I’m not aware of there ever being any posts of this type, and if anyone has links to or screencaps of any of these posts I ask that they please send me the links. Email them, send them via AIM, PM me on Den of Demons or Den of Angels, comment here, I don’t care — just give me caps or links. Because I have never deleted any posts that had to do with LadySaiyuki, to my knowledge the previous admin never deleted any posts that had to do with ANYTHING, and I’m not aware of any such posts ever having existed.

Apparently the reports of communication between LadySaiyuki and Den of Angels/Armeleia are a total fabrication:

It has been brought to my attention that someone on LadySaiyuki’s forum has been referring to emails between LadySaiyuki and I.

as for moc and doa, neither will budge. armeleia told ls straight out she would never be allowed back on doa no matter what she did or proved and she also said that moc and ae would never retract those false statements either, I’m tempted to post the email that armeleia sent to ls, but I really think ls should post it, I’m going to call her tonight to try and get her to come back to her forum and make a public post on what has happened over the past few months. she’s been away for too long and from what I see here she’s missed.

These emails do not exist.  The sole communication between DoA and LadySaiyuki was her ban notice on DoA, which simply states that the issue is between her and Mint on Card.  We have not contacted her personally, nor has she contacted us.

I have had absolutely no contact with LadySaiyuki in over two years.  Anything produced to the contrary has been fabricated and I would consider it libelous.  I have absolutely no desire to be involved in this drama and have worked very hard to keep DoA as uninvolved as possible.   This is not “a DoA scandal;”  it is an issue that is strictly between Lady Saiyuki and Asleep Eidolon.

This is the only statement that I am going to make on this issue.  I am an uninvolved party and wish to remain so.

Edited to add: Apparently the allegations of communication between LadySaiyuki and Mint on Card are also false, according to the comment they were kind enough to leave below.

The following was posted on the LadySaiyuki.com forum by user ABailey82 (who interestingly appears to have joined specifically to post this):

I’m not really too far into the doll community, not even a member of doa,

I was one of the people who bought 1 of ls’s Pear heads that mismatched it’s body. due to all this crap that’s happened, I more and likely will not keep the pear head, but I did take a few pics for comparison for ls when she sent me her prototype head. and I know she’s been really busy with moving into a larger house, her baby, and all the other crazy stuff that’s been happening to her. she’s been mia from the internet for a few months and I heard from the cosplay crew she was just in the hospital again.
but I seriously believe these photo’s really need to be here asap, so I’m, posting the side by side lineup that I sent to ls….shows 5 different views of BOTH heads together:

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I’ve sent this image of the lineup comparison to ls along with all the separate files and a couple others, these pics show pretty well that Ls’s head is not a modded copy like the false slander that’s going around says.

There are obvious differences between the two heads. but I think I’ll let ls post more in detail as to what is obviously different.

I honestly told ls she should go after the moc and ae companies as well as dod for the false slander they’ve put against her, especially being that they had no physical evidence, just a few photoshop layovers done by people that have hated ls long before this ever happened. but ls told me back in feb, that she was so sick and tired of a guilty until proven innocent community and that fact that no matter what she did or said or proved it’s not like she can ever get back on doa anymore and that she has more important things to do, like taking care of her child, moving into a new home, and getting healthy again among other things. it’s a shame really, as I was just an anime convention hopper and it was ls that introduced me to bjd’s and now that I’m starting to get interested in them, the one who got me into them now doesn’t want to do what she loves anymore.

well I’ve said my peace and I’m just glad now that this evidence is now up, hopefully ls will get back on her site and fill in the rest of the blanks on the “doa scandal/nasty email she got from the new doa owner” and all the other drama surrounding this terrible incident.

And a later followup:

I was told by a cosplay buddy of mine she was in the hospital for possible appendicitis. I think she’s ok though.

as for moc and doa, neither will budge. armeleia told ls straight out she would never be allowed back on doa no matter what she did or proved and she also said that moc and ae would never retract those false statements either, I’m tempted to post the email that armeleia sent to ls, but I really think ls should post it, I’m going to call her tonight to try and get her to come back to her forum and make a public post on what has happened over the past few months. she’s been away for too long and from what I see here she’s missed.

and I’ll find out how she’s doing as well, I hope she is well or at least recovering well. she is a tough cookie so I’m sure she’s ok. but it doesn’t hurt to check in on her now and then.

I really hope that she’ll make her msd doll as she is very very beautiful and she’s really my type of doll. and I really hope she continues with her msd line as I was hoping for a larger eyed cutie made by ls one day.

Now, to step briefly out of the impartial blog updater role:

First of all, those photos make me more convinced, not less, that the doll is a copy.

Secondly, I would put money on ABailey82 being LadySaiyuki gone incognito. For someone who just happens to know her, she sure knows (and cares) a lot about exactly what’s going on in her life.

Third, considering that from a legal perspective I am Den of Demons — I pay for the webhost, the domain is registered to me, the VBulletin registration is in my name — I must admit that I can’t be totally impartial when she’s possibly plotting legal action against me (theoretically DOD could stand for Dream of Doll, but I don’t think they ever got involved so I assume she means Den of Demons). That said I do  not take the threat seriously at all, considering she doesn’t even know that had DOD made false and damaging statements about her, which we have not, that would be libel.

More updates as events warrant!

Lady Saiyuki posted some news to her website on February 3, but made some revisions as of last night or today:

Hello there Everyone on LS,
sorry for my recent absence, I have not been very well and have needed a much needed Break for my health, which I’m taking still,
but I wanted to say how sorry I was to miss out of Idex this year, as there were so many people that have supported me and been wonderful friends to me, that I would have loved to see.

and I am now starting to tackle my many many emails, pms and messages of support and love, I should have all of them answered within the week.

I send my hugs and love to all my Friends, Family, colleagues and fans that stick by me and have always believed in me, you are all a treasure to me and I love you all so very dearly.

I heard so many nice and wonderful things that everyone said about me and my dolls at Idex and all the wonderful wishes that were passed to me through my table that was at Idex.

oh and the online store will be updated with dolls that were on display at Idex later this week.

And Sadly due to all the stresses that have arisen via the doll community, I have decided that my new Kodomo serenity will not be made available for now (the few who ordered her will be contacted asap and refunded accordingly) as I will not have a doll that I put so much love and effort into ridiculed or harassed anymore than it already has been, this may change in the future after everything has been cleared up…oh and don’t get me wrong, I will still be posting Comparison pics to prove allegations made by scum of the doll community completely false (as I have proven every single time they have made these bogus/nasty allegations (every single doll I’ve ever made has been attacked by the scum of the community over the years…and after a while it just gets irritating and tiresome))
I’m just not interested in fueling their pitiful and lowly fires of drama attempting discussions….

one thing I will say, I will be starting a Yokai series that will all come with “saluting” right hand extra pieces dedicated to the lowly scum of the doll community (this hand will only be available to those 18 and over or to those under 18 that their parents/gaurdians can contact me and let me know it’s ok for them to have such a hand (it will be a “Flipping the bird” hand))

Thanks again everyone and I will update when I have both heads and have taken pics and have unstressed a little and feel a little better. and again I look forward to answering all the wonderful emails and messages that I have received,
~LS

I’m interested to see that she’s not admitting that Bobobie opted not to cast the doll.

It seems that there was a preorder for Lady Saiyuki’s dolls that included the Kodomo Serenity sculpt. Since it’s become clear that Bobobie will not be casting that doll, I’d be interested to hear whether people who preordered it have been refunded or even notified that their preorders won’t be fulfilled on schedule if at all.

I somehow doubt that anyone who’s a big enough fan of Lady Saiyuki to have ordered one of their dolls will want to talk to me, but I figure there’s no harm in asking what people have heard.

There haven’t been any updates pretty much because there’s been nothing to report. As far as I’m aware Lady Saiyuki has been MIA since January 6. No new “progress photos” have been posted since then and she’s made no attempt to refute anything posted here.

A Den of Demons poster who claims to be friendly with people at Bobobie says that the Serenity prototype was sent  back to Lady Saiyuki as of last week, so presumably the doll will not be cast, at least not by Bobobie.